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New Break in B1 and B2 Ciphers
[edit]In March of 2023, cryptographer James Simpson made a breakthrough in decoding the B1 and B2 ciphers. By discovering that the key was formed by numbering a series of repeating alphabets, he broke down the numbers and converted them to plaintext. The page of plaintext of B1 was arranged to deliver Old English Block ciphers, encasing letters from words on multiple lines in the proximity of each other. These formed shortened and abbreviated stennos, and left areas filled in spaces between them with low frequency nulls used as filler. Taking notice of the patterns of specific numbers and their placement in the cipher, he was able to locate a map from their mines to the depositories in Virginia within the matrix of the numbered cipher. The B2 cipher was also concealing a message using the same key, as well as a local map of the KGC depositories formed using an array of number patterns. The B2 was said to have been broken by the author, JB Ward, but in reality the statements made in the Beale about using the Declaration of Independence as a book code would lure researchers and cryptographers off into a dead end search for a book code for B1 and B2 for decades. The real key was found by merely listing a series of alphabets and their corresponding placement in a numerical sequence.
Is this a possible addition even though it is published by Ron Gervais on his Angelfire web page about the Beale Papers? The ciphers are found there on links to a page with copies of worksheets and resulting information that has never been seen, so its a new break in the ciphers and I think it deserves merit here. GLDNONE (talk) 12:54, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Decifrado Cifra de Beale
[edit]Como poderia divulgar se realmente encontrasse a mensagem esse é uns dos maiores problemas 138.99.199.211 (talk) 19:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Decrypted the first cryptogram
[edit]I think I may have decrypted it, though it isn't what you would think, I may be wrong but there's nothing wrong with giving it a try
“The sunshine was warm, the breeze gentle, as they strolled along the beach, contemplating life’s mysteries and the beauty of the vast ocean.” Tectumargenti (talk) 23:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
This article is an absolute mess
[edit]Most of the article is unsourced or uses low-quality sources including dictionaries and IMDb, huge chunks look like original research (if we can call paragraphs of speculation that), and the writing switches freely between taking the claims at face value and acknowledging that this may be a hoax.
I don't know if anyone's deeply invested in the article, but I will start cutting back most of the unsourced speculation and superfluous information in the coming weeks unless the situation improves. — Arcaist (contr—talk) 12:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please consider an edit that will add the newest link to the Popular Mechanics article on the subject of the Beale Ciphers. I would be willing to give you any materials you need to substantiate the claims made in the article, using worksheets, or basic decoding keys that would reveal the messages of the Beale, the maps used to encrypt the locations of the Gold Mines they used, or the information about the backstory behind the Beale itself that was discovered as being the catalyst for the creation of the pamphlet.
- There is a lot of new infomration and I am working to provide more links to resources and publications that are making the effort to document these discoveries, so I am asking that we make the effort to document them in the most appropriate manner for the site, from your point of view. You can contact me on my FB page at /SolvingBealePapers or via email at blueexplorer76 at warm message service dot com. 2600:1011:B332:3C3D:31F7:5382:C2A3:4659 (talk) 05:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
New Popular Mechanics Article on Beale Ciphers
[edit]I added the descriptions of the techniques applied to break the ciphers and their content in a summary, with the reference to the Popular Mechanics Article from the Nov/Dec Issue. Since these are verified and are able to be seen described in the article, I feel that there would be a better format for this page if it were able to host the images of the worksheets as they are fairly decorative and historically important to the reader who will want to see the results when searching here. Also I was not able to select a location for the new topic to be added further down and it automatically added the commentary to the top of the page, which I feel should be added further down the page in it's own section, but am unable to find the way to move it down the page. If you can help please do so, as the article is from Dave Howard, the former Editor of the Magazine and is a fairly good write up. GLDNONE (talk) 06:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- It seems that someone with a non-existing account has come through to remove something from the page from this referenced link to the Popular Mechanics Article. Perhaps it can be restored. Deleting information is not very supportive of the site or the efforts made to edit the page with new information. 2600:1011:B18D:2410:7D14:9126:DF90:2B79 (talk) 21:31, 24 October 2024 (UTC)